Hi All would a budget cost for a concrete septic tank please to include digging, making, and finishing. size 6 cubic m or about that will do, this is for my renovation budget that i need to do before i ask builders for quotes, thanks in advance

Mark

mickhev or Chris may be able to help you with this question you may even find the answer on ChrisQBG site??????

Did anyone ever answer your question here you could contact TYS they may have the answer to your question

Yes i answered it Krypton via pm

Why a concrete tank ? please check out our website for a far better, more reliable and stable solution.

Why a concrete tank ? Let me think for 5 seconds , yes got it that would be prise . When in Bulgaria and all that .

SewageSolutionsBg wrote:

Why a concrete tank ? please check out our website for a far better, more reliable and stable solution.

Your tanks look wonderful im sure they work and all that but several reason they are not for me, dont have the internal baffle as far as i can see, use an internal baffle to separate solids and the tank will work better for breaking down the solids, this allows you to have a shorter run off/ soakaway and the air pipe is not needed at the end of each soakaway you can just have one for the main tank. Also important to me was the cost via size issue i have the right amount of tank for the number of people not one that is to small or to big, so yes price does come into the costing of any product or service, That said i wish you luck with your business and later i maybe in the market for water storage system so will look again at your products.

Thank you for your intelligent reply, our tanks do actually have a filter system to prevent scum or solids exiting the tank and into the drainfield, which is what the baffle you mention is designed to do.I will have another picture uploaded to the site to show the principle of this. thank you for bringing it to my attention
Just out of interest, how many people have you designed your system to be used for ?

What would the cost be as opposed to a concrete tank ?

johnbaz wrote:

Why a concrete tank ? Let me think for 5 seconds , yes got it that would be prise . When in Bulgaria and all that .

So what is the actual price difference ? I've not yet seen a price comparison. And i mean like for like, a properly designed and constructed (water tight) concrete tank and drainfield against our superior plastic alternative ?

If you were local to the Vratsa region you can have the 3200 liter option (suitable for a family of 6) fully installed with our comprehensive 25 year guarantee covering all components and workmanship for 4400 levs, (regardless of the state of the pound)

I would like to be able to repeat that kind of price throughout Bulgaria. We do supply only with delivery for a very competeive price, so there is plenty of scope for digger owners/operators to offer the same high standards at competeive prices.

Ok So you really want to know, a Septic Tank built to european standards for a house of 4 people in concrete 2200leva god knows why i would be interested in the state of the £ but never has been quoted in pounds Just leva so your plastic tank is nearly twice the cost maybe i should go in to business selling the design lol. the tank will hold 2000lt of solid mater and 1500lt of fluids more than enough to last 2 years if only lasts 1 year its only like 70leva to empty it 70 into 2000 = 28 so the total cost including emptying of tank to get to 4200 will take 28 Years seams good to me.

Yes, of course i really wanted to know. ( and no i'm not being sarcastic)

Sounds like an absolute bargain ! Is that the genuine retail price ? and is that the absolute total cost ? from start to finish with site cleaned etc ? including absolutely all labour,machine and material costs ?What guarantee do they offer ? Who is the company that offers such a gem ? how long are the drain beds ? what areas do they cover ? How thick are the walls, base and lid ? what reinforcing is used ?

Or is it a DIY cost ?

Seriuosly, if you know a firm that can provide a top quality, european legal and standard, leak proof concrete tank and system to the same high standards as i can a plastic one, for nearly half the price, then you should be shouting their names from the roof tops !

No reason why you should be interested in the state of the pound, it was aimed at the "
BRIT BUILDERS BRIGADE"
who price in pounds for everything. no one imparticular but i have met plenty.

If the system functions correctly then it will have the same life/emptying cycle as the plastic tanks, so though it may seem to add weight to your cut price concrete system argument, The real crooks of the matter is the life span of the structure itself ? How resistant is it to earthquakes? is it really impevious to water ?

I look forward to reading your replies.

SewageSolutionsBg wrote:

Yes, of course i really wanted to know. ( and no i'm not being sarcastic)

Sounds like an absolute bargain ! Is that the genuine retail price ? and is that the absolute total cost ? from start to finish with site cleaned etc ? including absolutely all labour,machine and material costs ?What guarantee do they offer ? Who is the company that offers such a gem ? how long are the drain beds ? what areas do they cover ? How thick are the walls, base and lid ? what reinforcing is used ?

Or is it a DIY cost ?

Seriuosly, if you know a firm that can provide a top quality, european legal and standard, leak proof concrete tank and system to the same high standards as i can a plastic one, for nearly half the price, then you should be shouting their names from the roof tops !

No reason why you should be interested in the state of the pound, it was aimed at the "
BRIT BUILDERS BRIGADE"
who price in pounds for everything. no one imparticular but i have met plenty.

If the system functions correctly then it will have the same life/emptying cycle as the plastic tanks, so though it may seem to add weight to your cut price concrete system argument, The real crooks of the matter is the life span of the structure itself ? How resistant is it to earthquakes? is it really impevious to water ?

I look forward to reading your replies.

The Price quoted is the full and finished cost including removal of excess site materials, the walls base and top are 150mm with 10mm reinforcing steel rods, it is not a DIY job apart from its my design being built by Bulgarian builders, its a leak proof as any concrete structure, as for life span 20 years will do no problem its resistance to eathquakes will be better than a plastic tank i am sure. there is one point i would like to make this is a project with a lot more work than one Tank if however the site clearing cost is included in another item i have no idea, but even if it is we are only talking another few hundred leva. the length of the soakaway drain beds are calculated at 25m however we are still considering a full filtration system this would only require a much smaller drainage area as the water coming from this filter is of drinkable quality that said i wont be drink it lol, if we add this then the cost will 5000leva but we can the bottle the water to sell lol

I would also like to add that the plastic tanks are very good i did consider a plastic tank but the concrete tank meets our needs better.

Hats off to you for your design, and to your Bulgarian building team, (sincerely) I wish you the very best of luck and look forward to hearing about it when everything is finished,installed, working and paid for. I'm sure you will be able to find these guys a lot of work in the future should everything turn out ok.

The concrete will need treating to be impervious though, so it will allways leach into the ground and equally take on ground water without it. Also insist on a vibration poker.
Also the plastic tank has a greater ability to resist shock that the concrete due to being more mallable.

Posting the comparative prices is good for the readers at large and show them what can be expected for their money !!! They can search the internet for further information about the pros and cons of both concrete based and plastic tank based systems and make informed decisions. And whether they choose concrete or plastic, they will have a good idea what they should expect to be paying, and hopefully realise that there is absolutely no excuse to have an illegal stone lined soackaway pit !!!

Best wishes

Richard

Fascinating discussion ... many thanks!

Must admit, when we lived in France for 10 years we only ever had plastic. Here, we're on Mains, so don't worry too much about the t-bag things you should chuck down the loo every few weeks.

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