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LisA Super user
Posts : 391 Join date : 2010-10-17
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:48 am | |
| Its a good point Jack but surely as time passes there will be some sort of government inspections and if your not up to standard then perhaps they will enforce it? so its better if you can to get it done as soon as possible? well this is my thought anyway. |
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JACK SPARROW Junior user
Posts : 33 Join date : 2009-10-11
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:46 am | |
| Lisa if you can afford it and prefer the costly new EU reg septics,then why not....but as for Bulgaria and Bulgarians,the new septic tanks cost more than thier house or vehicle,and i cant see them getting them,unless of course theres huge grants available or thier FREE. Perhaps an 'akward official' being a pain,might say to a Brit,or richer incomer,that they must have a new fandangled poo holder,compared to the rest of the villagers.'hole in the garden' /bar/resturuant.Especially if its a new build (then yes ) but if its an old house or you've owned it for a number of years..... |
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BGTRAVELLER Super user
Posts : 1074 Join date : 2009-09-07
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:45 pm | |
| I think in some ways your right Jack but I also see what Lisa is saying, its more scare tactics than anything else and lets face even in the UK they still use a hole in the ground and a soak-away so if its good enough for the UK and then is good enough anywhere some would say |
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oldun Super user
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2009-09-19
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:49 pm | |
| You know what? I'm going to upset a few folks here BUT.... How on earth has the human race survived without 'health and safety?' ... and, yes. - how on earth are village Bulgarians (and impoverished Brits) going to afford all the EU specifications? Come on..... get a life. None of us can live forever, and before anyone tells me that we all have to worry about the ecology - well ... when half the world is starving my vote goes to making sure people HAVE food never mind where the waste goes. Before anyone asks if I am having a bad day - no I'm not. I'm actually extremely happy in my new home which was built sometime in the 1800s. What's good enough for the Bulgarians is good enough for me. |
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itchyfeet Mega user
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-09-10 Age : 68 Location : Paskalevets
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:49 pm | |
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oldun Super user
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2009-09-19
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:34 pm | |
| I think that most village loos were built outside and well away from the house because waste in the 'hole in the ground' eventually found its way into the land which often had a ditch dug away from it to land exitting the property as was ours, so it never really filled up. I can't imagine that s....lorries ever came to empty them. After all, isn't manure that gets put on gardens, effluent albeit from animals? Too much information here so I will close! We now have indoor toilets which actually empty into a double tank system and we never put paper etc down it because it will probably cause a blockage and the umentionables will then come up in the house as Itchyfeet said. We had this problem when some guests stayed and the result was horrendous! Maybe the pipes in new renovations will be bigger but I will never trust it after that winter. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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JACK SPARROW Junior user
Posts : 33 Join date : 2009-10-11
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:43 pm | |
| Our ' wonderfull ' toilet in the garden (Bulgarian) is built on a stone foundation about 2' off the ground,then kerpitch walls,at the side of the stone wall,which holds the crud is a small hatchway/opening which has a steel sheet as a door,i guess this was to get the shovel in,when it filled to much ????and yes no problem putting it on the garden as long as its well rotted,doesn't smell and looks more like earth. As i'm a spoilt Brit,i have taken the trouble and expence to lay pipe from ' indoors' (where a 'proper'toilet now sits)down in a trench to the huge cesspit i built (shhh dont tell no one,it was here ,when i came) its 10' long,6' deep and 8' wide,should accomodate my doings,oh and i made two chambers,thinking that the sludge ? would stay and break down in one and the liquid,drain more freely into other,then slowly seap out into the ' huge ' garden 6' deep or deeper,the closest house is at least 100metres away and 'up' from my cesspit which is 'down' the garden. I was going to build a swimming pool next to it,but on second thoughts .....lol To be honest (my thoughts ) i'm not pumping tonnes of efluent into the surrounding area,between us,about 4 poops a day,then you have the many ltrs of fresh water mixed with it,which helps to dilute and break it down before it enters the cesspit,then nature takes its course,bacteria gets to work on it,before it eventually leaches into the sub soil 6' to 10' down,and as 'water' finds its way...deeper,unless a huge flood ,then i think it safe,of course this wouldn't work in a city or town,hence mains,where ever that gets pumped too,i have heard that your expensive 'emptying of your EU tank',by the man that charges,gets dumped either at the 'refuse dump' or on farmers fields..... |
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oldun Super user
Posts : 1275 Join date : 2009-09-19
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:31 am | |
| :Thank you:Brilliant answer Mr Sparrow. My thoughts and experiences entirely. All waste has to go somewhere and unless or until Bulgaria has purification systems in place, the s.... lorries must have to dump (??) somewhere. Best kept on private land as long as it doesn't effect neighbours or cause a smell. I have photos of our system in the garden which sounds much like Mr Sparrows and a hatch to check for any problems. I''m afraid that, once again, I have to say that if primitive methods offend sensibilities then maybe Bulgaria isn't for you. It will be years until things change here in some areas. Where is the money coming from when a high percentage of Bulgarians are below the poverty line? I also think that occasionally, posts tend to confuse issues rather than help. |
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itchyfeet Mega user
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-09-10 Age : 68 Location : Paskalevets
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:44 am | |
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bigsavak Super user
Posts : 756 Join date : 2009-09-16
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:30 pm | |
| Great topic people keep it going this is the sort of thing I like to read IE the old way V the new way. |
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oddball Moderator
Posts : 7312 Join date : 2009-10-20 Age : 65
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:30 am | |
| Oh itchy what are we going to do with you I am not sure what we got in our garden never look in that area. There is a manhole you open and climb down but that is as far as I know, guess we need to check it sometime eh! to see if it is a cesspit or a septic tank. Oh bother, do they have to be emptied? and if so how often |
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itchyfeet Mega user
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-09-10 Age : 68 Location : Paskalevets
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:53 am | |
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oddball Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:39 pm | |
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Noddy Senior user
Posts : 207 Join date : 2010-02-11
| Subject: Re: Septic Tanks Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:33 pm | |
| Not much wrong with a septic tank, you just might have to have it emptied every 5 yrs or so....use proper septic tank chemicals to keep it working good....laundry soap and bleach are bad things to put into the septic, they kill off the things inside the tank that keeps it working so you might want a separate line from the laundry room and bypass the septic and go straight to a leaching field if possible. If you have a septic tank then make a map of where the lids are ( how far from house ect...) hard to find once covered up with dirt....be sure there are clean out pipes on each end of the tank. |
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itchyfeet Mega user
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