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If you have been watching the BBC news doesn't this lot really make you feel proud to be British

What annoys me more than anything is that the real students that will get on in life do not have to pay back any money until they earn 21,000 a year. What is wrong with them . When I was younger you had to be a real brain box to go to University, or if not like me study on day release if your firm would let you. In my case a day and an evening after work. Plus it did not stop after one term or one year it went on and on. Agreed I benefited from it, as the more qualifications I got the higher up the tree I climbed.

I never thought I would say this but what has happened to the young generation of to-day.

I was still studying in my fifties, had to, to keep up with modern trends. Maybe I should have demonstrated, I wonder how far I would have got.

Another gripe is just how many of these idiots are at Uni just for a dose, I wonder

Thank you bigsavac.

I wonder if any of the demonstrators were hoodies

I bet they have not played up against the Bulgarian Police who pack pistols instead of a piece of wood

DONT LET THEM PUT THE FEES UP! I WAS AT LEICESTER CLOCK TOWER TODAY PROTESTING! I DON'T WANT A NEAR 40K DEBT AFTER STUDYING BULGARIAN IN UCL THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!!!
and as a teacher in bulgaria no waaayyy will i earn 21k a year!!!! and am i even able to leave the UK with such a grand debt? ??????
Cameron is ruining me life :(

sallyann wrote:

I'm sure many of the protesters are not even at university...just a good excuse to behave like idiots! If they are students, then parents look at the file photos and act accordingly.

I protested today...coz i dont want a 40k debt ;
)

I think there are some genuine students who are protesting but I do agree there are those who are only there for the trouble they can cause, therre is nothing wrong with peaceful protest

mechta wrote:

DONT LET THEM PUT THE FEES UP! I WAS AT LEICESTER CLOCK TOWER TODAY PROTESTING! I DON'T WANT A NEAR 40K DEBT AFTER STUDYING BULGARIAN IN UCL THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!!!
and as a teacher in bulgaria no waaayyy will i earn 21k a year!!!! and am i even able to leave the UK with such a grand debt? ??????
Cameron is ruining me life :(

I am so sorry for you that you think that we should pay for your EXTRA education. We had to pay for night school to learn a new language let alone go to Uni. :Very sad:No one bailed us out

The post was and is about student protest, and as the rowfamily have said there is nothing wrong with peaceful protest

Don't know much about protesting really, never got into doing any personally. The French seem to enjoy it and there always seem to be a lot of protests going on over there. France came top of all the European countries in a survey carried out by The Telegraph of the "
The Most Popular Country to Live in"
- marvellous isn't it!! They have all these protests and people are flocking there to live, must be a popular pastime for many. And where did our wonderful country The United Kingdom come on this list of popular countries . . . 26th!!! No wonder there are so many British Expats living everywhere else in the world.

tonyb60 wrote:

mechta wrote:

DONT LET THEM PUT THE FEES UP! I WAS AT LEICESTER CLOCK TOWER TODAY PROTESTING! I DON'T WANT A NEAR 40K DEBT AFTER STUDYING BULGARIAN IN UCL THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!!!
and as a teacher in bulgaria no waaayyy will i earn 21k a year!!!! and am i even able to leave the UK with such a grand debt? ??????
Cameron is ruining me life :(

I am so sorry for you that you think that we should pay for your EXTRA education. We had to pay for night school to learn a new language let alone go to Uni. :Very sad:No one bailed us out

The post was and is about student protest, and as the rowfamily have said there is nothing wrong with peaceful protest

i think i might go VT uni in BG instead of UCL in London...i dont want a debt over a house worth lol :LMHO:and yes i think you should pay hahahaha everyone needs to know bulgarian ;
) LMAO ->
just joking :P

Good girl Louise :Great:Nice to see that you did not take offence

Nothing personal about paying fees for students.

Learning Bulgarian in VT is probably a better idea than learning Bulgarian in the UK. Where are the experts BG

tonyb60 wrote:

Good girl Louise :Great:Nice to see that you did not take offence

Nothing personal about paying fees for students.

Learning Bulgarian in VT is probably a better idea than learning Bulgarian in the UK. Where are the experts BG

yeeeess but however isn't a UK degree better than a Bulgarian one?
Also i heard that VT pay forgeiners to go to there uni hahahaa i hope that is true

A degree is a degree

In my days of teaching I worked with a guy that had a first class degree in Physics issued by the University of Delhi cost him 50 quid. He did very well with that one. ::

I think that it all depends on what you want to achieve with a degree. All a degree proves is that you have the ability to learn something in a certain subject. Learn Geology then you may become a geologist. As did my nephew who got a 1st at Cambridge as did his wife as well. If you go for a mickey mouse degree then you get mickey mouse job or nothing at all, I mean the arty types of degree. These are the people that get real students a bad name and image. If you want a degree in Bulgarian language then makes sense to learn it where the expertise is. But what you do need is a qualification in teaching skills such as a PSG. If you go onto the IPD (Institute of Personnel and Development) web site you might find a course in your area that will teach you the needed skills. Unfortunately I let my membership lapse so I cannot help I'm afraid. Also you could have a chat with your careers officer at school.

Learning Bulgarian is one thing being able to teach it is a different ball game. How many teachers do you know that go through the motions. How many times have you come out of class and said boring.

To be a good teacher you need to know your stuff

Hope this all helps.

Tony

tonyb60 wrote:

A degree is a degree

In my days of teaching I worked with a guy that had a first class degree in Physics issued by the University of Delhi cost him 50 quid. He did very well with that one. ::

I think that it all depends on what you want to achieve with a degree. All a degree proves is that you have the ability to learn something in a certain subject. Learn Geology then you may become a geologist. As did my nephew who got a 1st at Cambridge as did his wife as well. If you go for a mickey mouse degree then you get mickey mouse job or nothing at all, I mean the arty types of degree. These are the people that get real students a bad name and image. If you want a degree in Bulgarian language then makes sense to learn it where the expertise is. But what you do need is a qualification in teaching skills such as a PSG. If you go onto the IPD (Institute of Personnel and Development) web site you might find a course in your area that will teach you the needed skills. Unfortunately I let my membership lapse so I cannot help I'm afraid. Also you could have a chat with your careers officer at school.

Learning Bulgarian is one thing being able to teach it is a different ball game. How many teachers do you know that go through the motions. How many times have you come out of class and said boring.

To be a good teacher you need to know your stuff

Hope this all helps.

Tony

hahaha none of my teachers can teach and i cant really go to my careers officer....wanting to teach eng in bg isn't an acceptable career :( and UCL (university college london) looks awesome and many celebs have gone there and politictions and its the 4th best in the uk its awesome but i'd have a 40k debt :S and i dont want that hahaha

I did not go into teaching until I was 25. I soon found out that teaching is a vocation, I will never know if I was a good teacher or not, only my ex pupils will say. But what I do know is that a good teacher makes the subject very interesting. I once had a guy teach me who was a Mr Bean look alike. We were learning Industrial Illumination at the time(boring or what) but this guy was brill. He made the subject interesting and as a result we all got good grades. All I know is that my students got good grades as well.

There is no such thing as can't (in can't go to my careers officer). That's what they are paid for, not to sit in their ivory towers and do nothing. Plus if you choose to have a job outside the UK that is your choice. You are still very young but you seem to be determined to do the Bulgarian thing. As they say here stepka stepka.

I feel you need to take advice from someone I only wish I knew who.

Tony

I agree with starlite,you can get a degree for anything,and its of no use to anyone,i think they should streamline uni,and it should only be given to those who wish to follow a decent subject,like medicine,teaching,jobs that they can get thats meaning full,its a very big waste of money,rant over

Your right Mickhev there does seem to be a lot of different this that people can study that will never be any use to them or anyone else for example why would you want to study Folk and Traditional Music :shocked1:as you say Mickhev it should be something useful.

tonyb60 wrote:

I did not go into teaching until I was 25. I soon found out that teaching is a vocation, I will never know if I was a good teacher or not, only my ex pupils will say. But what I do know is that a good teacher makes the subject very interesting. I once had a guy teach me who was a Mr Bean look alike. We were learning Industrial Illumination at the time(boring or what) but this guy was brill. He made the subject interesting and as a result we all got good grades. All I know is that my students got good grades as well.

There is no such thing as can't (in can't go to my careers officer). That's what they are paid for, not to sit in their ivory towers and do nothing. Plus if you choose to have a job outside the UK that is your choice. You are still very young but you seem to be determined to do the Bulgarian thing. As they say here stepka stepka.

I feel you need to take advice from someone I only wish I knew who.

Tony

hahaha i'm too determined for my own good lol .... like i only got a C grade at french gcse but begged my teacher to let me do alevel hahahaha and i think id be a good teacher..well i hope so hahaha but we shall see...and i will consider it :P