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BGTRAVELLER Super user
Posts : 1074 Join date : 2009-09-07
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:59 am | |
| I have always thought that is the most logical explanation, not only that it is very easy from there to empty the plane reposition it with a new flight number and use it for another purpose, ie fly it over Ukraine and blow it up with the purpose of blaming a particular country. the results of the blackbox form that particular incident was never given. |
| | | scott Super user
Posts : 1053 Join date : 2009-10-30
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:03 am | |
| Could this be? Could it be YET another dismissed conspiracy theory coming out as real fact?
The Americans and British remained very quiet, neither opting to share radar information and bearing in mind the US base sweeps not only via land but satellite too, surely the Americans must have seen or heard... something.
The dismissed theory is that either the pilot was co opted or forced or the plane was hijacked within and flown to Diego Garcia, the only runway capable of taking this type of plane in the region, onboard were some very appetising passengers including Chinese military officials, the plane literally disappeared despite it being nigh on impossible to squelch the transponders that the pilot has no control over BUT at Diego Garcia they have a great array of radar jamming and silencing equipment that can cast a shadow of silence across a vast expanse. Remember it took 30 years for the Yanks to hint they may have shot down that Iranian jet and we are still yet to be told the truth about Lockerbie, is this another event we will have to wait endless years to find out we were right all along and were lied to yet again? |
| | | Carmen Super user
Posts : 714 Join date : 2010-03-19
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:08 am | |
| I find it curious that no-one has identified the 'low flying aircraft with red and blue livery' that was reported by the Islanders. It may not be MH370, but given the surveillance of our skies, someone should have identified it. Look at the identification of the 'non-existent' rendition flights that happened all over the world. |
| | | willowsend Mega user
Posts : 2271 Join date : 2009-11-10 Age : 84 Location : Dobrich
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:37 am | |
| I find all this very frustrating, and I'm nobody, so how must all the relations and friends be feeling about their missing loved ones on that dreaded flight Scott's quote:- The dismissed theory is that either the pilot was co opted or forced or the plane was hijacked within and flown to Diego Garcia, the only runway capable of taking this type of plane in the region, on board were some very appetising passengers including Chinese military officials, the plane literally disappeared despite it being nigh on impossible to squelch the transponders that the pilot has no control over BUT at Diego Garcia they have a great array of radar jamming and silencing equipment that can cast a shadow of silence across a vast expanse. Remember it took 30 years for the Yanks to hint they may have shot down that Iranian jet and we are still yet to be told the truth about Lockerbie, is this another event we will have to wait endless years to find out we were right all along and were lied to yet again?.. Unquote Scott, I have always had a feeling that Diego Garcia and the Americans had something to do with this The following link makes some interesting reading [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
| | | scott Super user
Posts : 1053 Join date : 2009-10-30
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:53 am | |
| We are not to be told what happened to Flight MH-370. A number of powers are colluding to hide the truth, as with Flight MH-17. Australia's government is complicit in both cover-ups. Next question. Undoubtedly, Malaysia and Vietnam's flight control have both behaved strangely in the first hours of the disappearance. Neither have satisfactorily answered questions as to why. Neither has Malaysia's air defence explained why they failed to report an aircraft travelling with transponder turned off. The ultimate actor is highly likely to be the USA, and that is likely where MH370 ended up. We now are entering a new century in which the rulers of the world can suborn national governments to commit treason, in the form of conspiring to hide crimes against their own citizens. These criminals are walking a tightrope. |
| | | willowsend Mega user
Posts : 2271 Join date : 2009-11-10 Age : 84 Location : Dobrich
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:57 am | |
| - scott wrote:
- We are not to be told what happened to Flight MH-370. A number of powers are colluding to hide the truth, as with Flight MH-17. Australia's government is complicit in both cover-ups. Next question. Undoubtedly, Malaysia and Vietnam's flight control have both behaved strangely in the first hours of the disappearance. Neither have satisfactorily answered questions as to why. Neither has Malaysia's air defence explained why they failed to report an aircraft travelling with transponder turned off. The ultimate actor is highly likely to be the USA, and that is likely where MH370 ended up. We now are entering a new century in which the rulers of the world can suborn national governments to commit treason, in the form of conspiring to hide crimes against their own citizens. These criminals are walking a tightrope.
What about these links, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
| | | stigofthedump Senior user
Posts : 157 Join date : 2010-02-11
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:42 pm | |
| I think that extending the search for this plane to anywhere there is even the most tenuous of evidence, should now be an option. Sticking so rigidly to the arc evidence has produced absolutely nothing and it has now got to the point where it really does look as if someone is afraid they may find something if they look elsewhere. Regardless of the complete lack of current evidence all alternate suggestions are immediately disregarded as being implausible. |
| | | Andy Super user
Posts : 555 Join date : 2010-02-11
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:02 pm | |
| The Maldives sighting was reported days after MH370 went missing. also the oil rig worker who saw a flaming object in the sky about the time and in the same area that MH370 was supposedly flying. Neither were investigated at the time. The question is - why not? |
| | | Dobrich Junior user
Posts : 68 Join date : 2010-03-16
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:01 pm | |
| Reported sighting In the Maldives Islands: Around 6:15 am local time on 8 March, the day MH370 vanished, residents of Kuda Huvadhoo, population 3500, in Dhall Atoll in the Maldives spotted a "low-flying jumbo jet" with white and red stripes across it as on Malaysian Airliners, the report said. The residents heard incredibly loud noise which made them come out of their houses to look for the source of the sound. The residents said the plane was flying so low that they could even see its doors. It is unclear why the investigators have not explained why they ruled out eyewitness accounts so quickly. They stated that the Republic of the Maldives National Defence Force has told them that they had not seen anything on their radar. ". I have to question why so much credibility has been given to this statement after other military radars in a number of highly developed countries who don’t really get along with each other very well, never noticed the transponder failure or the change in course by the aircraft until well after the occurrence. . I quote an official statement, “no trace of the MH370 Airline has been found from the data scrutinized thus far from radars stationed at the airports in the Maldives”. It's hard to argue with the investigators when they are not giving you any concrete information. |
| | | sallyann Super user
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-02-15
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:01 pm | |
| Just thought I would add this update
The current underwater search area for the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 in the remote area of the Indian Ocean may be largely completed in May.
The Australian Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC), which oversees the search operation, in a statement on Wedenesday, pointed out that more than 60% of the area had been covered so far.
However, it said the target was made assuming that there would be no significant delays involving the vessels, equipment and the weather.
"Our work will continue to be thorough and methodical, so sometimes weekly progress may seem slow.
"Please be assured that work is continuing and is aimed at finding MH370 as quickly as possible," the statement said.
Meanwhile, JACC said Malaysia-Australia contracted vessel, Fugro Discovery was currently in the search area conducting underwater search operations, though experiencing a little 'hiccup' due to problems with the power supply through the cable to the towfish on the second day after arriving at the location.
"This issue was rectified and search operations resumed during the night of April 12," it said.
The GO Pheonix, and Fugro Equator, in the meantime, were expected to arrive tomorrow from the Port of Fremantle, JACC said.
Another vessel, Fugro Equator was expected to arrive on Friday (April 16) and if weather permits, the vessel would conduct calibration trials while transiting to the search area.
"Sea states in the priority search area are anticipated to range from two to six in the coming week. Remnants of ex-Tropical Cyclone Joalane may pass through the search area in the next couple of days," it added.
Flight MH370 dropped off radar on March 8 last year as it flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 227 passengers and 12 crew on board.
The Boeing 777 aircraft has yet to be found, even after an exhaustive search in the southern Indian Ocean where it is believed to have gone down after veering off course.
On Jan 29 this year, the Malaysian Department of Civil Aviation announced that the misfortune was an accident based on international aviation rules and that all 239 people on board were deemed to have lost their lives. - Bernama |
| | | BGmoaner Junior user
Posts : 75 Join date : 2012-07-30 Location : BG
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:32 pm | |
| A plane doesn't just disappear, the people behind this know the truth. I think the truth will never come out and the public will be led on with false stories to take our mind away from the truth.
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| | | Noddy Senior user
Posts : 207 Join date : 2010-02-11
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:12 am | |
| The aircraft departs Kuala Lumpur and shortly after 1am reaches cruising altitude over the South China Sea on the way to Beijing. Conjecture — Captain Shah gets the co-pilot to leave the flight deck using some excuse, such as, go get me a coffee as the cabin crew are busy with the service. He then locks the flight deck door. Fact — he then signs off on the radio to Kuala Lumpur control ATC as his was the last voice heard. The aircraft then becomes electronically invisible as all radios, ACARs etc are manually turned off. This leads the authorities to initially believe the aircraft had crashed in the South China Sea as Captain Shah probably intended. He then turns the aircraft west towards Penang using the heading mode and dons his oxygen mask. He then de-pressurizes the aircraft. Passenger oxygen is chemically generated and only lasts 10 minutes so the passengers were soon deceased. He re-pressurizes the aircraft and overflies Penang, his home town, and heads to the northwest around the tip of Sumatra. This route was subsequently attained later by analysis of the military radar which uses earlier technology of primary radar return that does not rely on the aircraft responding to interrogation.The aircraft with the new route programmed in flies for a further six hours. Getting low on fuel, Captain Shah descended and performed a controlled pre-planned ditching as per the ditching procedures specified in the Boeing B777 aircraft flight manual — ie gear up, into wind, slow as possible and thus leaving the aircraft substantially intact, therefore no debris. With outflow valves open and ram air selected, the aircraft rapidly fills with water and sinks into oblivion in one of the most remote, un-surveyed and mountainous undersea terrains on planet Earth. Captain Shah carefully pre-planned and brilliantly executed this hijacking which resulted in his death and the murder of 238 souls. |
| | | scott Super user
Posts : 1053 Join date : 2009-10-30
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:40 pm | |
| Here's something very interesting which make you wonder if there is any connection to the disappearance of MH370 Malaysian authorities were hit by cyber attack hours after MH370 jet went missing A report from cybersecurity firm Kaspersky says that Malaysian authorities were hit by a cyber attack in the hours following the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370. The firm says that the attack was carried out by known criminal group Naikon and targeted authorities in Malaysia and other countries that were involved in the search for the missing airliner. Kaspersky’s Costain Raiu says that the attack was an intelligence-gathering mission; they were trying to find out about passengers on the flight. |
| | | Thomas Junior user
Posts : 49 Join date : 2009-09-25
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:01 pm | |
| It's been stated by several Government agencies since day one that American spy agencies were involved, 3 passengers on this flight were traveling on known stolen passports, all of which have never been formally identified, were they terrorist or Chinese spies, surprisingly the majority of the passengers were Chinese, China has voiced little about the incident. |
| | | Gimp Super user
Posts : 863 Join date : 2010-02-12
| Subject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370 Thu May 14, 2015 3:00 pm | |
| There are two problems with the governmental consensus about the location of MH370;
The first is the miraculous and previously unheard of method they discovered a few days after the disappearance of the aircraft.
It was known that the pings could not identify a planes north south location.
Then correctly or conveniently they figured out a way to definitively say that it flew to the southern ocean, (maybe never to be found again).
This math, may be correct, however when I first heard media reports of it, it struck me as a very convenient "discovery".
If I was to see independent scholars, come out and confirm the method used, I would be satisfied, it seems though that the data is "commercially sensitive" so it was done behind closed doors.
the second is; no debris... And their willingness to think that any debris would have disappeared to the bottom of the ocean. So many plastic and buoyant things on a commercial flight. (It is possible that the aircraft made such a perfect ditch into calm water that no breakup or even a tear in the fuselage occurred... Extremely unlikely though!)
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