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Chris Moderator
Posts : 2299 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 61
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:10 pm | |
| many thanks for the insight |
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davshaz Super user
Posts : 1250 Join date : 2009-12-28
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:24 pm | |
| I'm glad you have come along and added some light to this! its always better for people to fully understand a situation when they are armed with some facts instead or listening to gossip mongers who have nothing better to say than what Andy reported above. Its very sad that your friend has found himself in this situation and it has driven him to obvious despair, under these circumstances we would all have to ask ourselves how would we react? and the answer would be " I don't know?" and that's because unless you are of the same frail mind you can not realistically comment or judge. |
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tonyb60 Mega user
Posts : 2150 Join date : 2010-02-18
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:28 pm | |
| - davshaz wrote:
- I'm glad you have come along and added some light to this! its always better for people to fully understand a situation when they are armed with some facts instead or listening to gossip mongers who have nothing better to say than what Andy reported above. Its very sad that your friend has found himself in this situation and it has driven him to obvious despair, under these circumstances we would all have to ask ourselves how would we react? and the answer would be "
I don't know?" and that's because unless you are of the same frail mind you can not realistically comment or judge. Too true davshav. Maybe it was desperation. But who knows how a court of law will view it. |
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willowsend Mega user
Posts : 2271 Join date : 2009-11-10 Age : 84 Location : Dobrich
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:37 pm | |
| - beautifulangel wrote:
- As i live in the same village as roger i feel i should defend his character if not his behaviour. He has been very kind and helpful towards my family and gone out of his way to show us around the area and introduce us to people. Unfortunately he was extreemely unhappy living in bulgaria and found himself in a position where he felt unable to leave. I personally think its awful for things to have got so out of hand, and i'm glad that stefan is ok. But as he has always been kind to me i hope they take his mental state into consideration when they sentance him.
for your post and the information, as I said in my previous post it was paper talk so it is good to get it from the horses mouth so to speak This guy Roger obviously flipped in frustration, and we have to ask ourselves, what would we have done in the same situation of provocation, and until or when we are confronted with it we will never know I hope he goes to court, get's a fair trial and all things are considered and that Roger and Stefan can return to being good neighbour's I must admit some of the comments made on this topic I feel are rather harsh to say the least, like throw the book at him and throw the key's away |
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Gimp Super user
Posts : 863 Join date : 2010-02-12
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:07 pm | |
| I stand by what I said Brian under normal circumstances which is all I had to go on but in view of the facts now coming from the horses mouth so to speak then there has to be some room for leniency. As you rightly point out if your mind isn't functioning in the way it should then none of us can say how we would react? I to hope that the courts will take all the facts into account but lets not forget this is Bulgaria and I don't think I have ever seen real justice. |
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therowfamily Super user
Posts : 529 Join date : 2010-03-09
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:14 am | |
| Interesting follow up with video all in Bulgarian sorry [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ... uzika.html |
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Chris Moderator
Posts : 2299 Join date : 2009-09-14 Age : 61
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:49 am | |
| Rough Translation:
" Neighborhood scandal ended with blood. Briton stabbed with a knife his neighbor in the Popovo village of Cane. The incident occurred on the third of March, the reason for it proved to be too loud music, disturbing the sleep of a Briton.
Neighborhood brawl started here. 51-year-old Stefan Dimitrov and his two friends got together in the garage near the house. The man said that was fun with wine and music. Midnight Noise, however, infuriated neighbor Roger.
We went out without arguing to see what was happening. He began to cry, and entered inside, the victim Stefan Dimitrov explained.
Having failed to pacify the neighbors with words, the Englishman decided to act with a firm hand and threw stones, breaking windows. They suspected that Roger was carrying a knife.
In the ensuing encounter in the courtyard, Stefan was stabbed with a knife in the abdomen. Neighbors put him in a car and drove him to hospital.
His attacker was detained by police, but was released to go home the next day. Roger explained that he was looking for conflict with its neighbors, " I went to ask them to be quieter. Two of them came out with a pickax in one hand, the other with a shovel. And I attacked. It was in defence as they tried to kill me. What could I do?" Roger defended.
Although two years living in Cane, Roger remains a mystery to his neighbors.
Locals argue that the Englishman appeared after being banished from the nearby village because of his explosive temper. He receives a pension from the UK, so does not have to work here. He has no friends among the village.
Stefan, the victim, is in hospital in Targovishte. His condition is now stable and there is no danger to his life, and he should be allowed home in a week.
The press office of the Regional Directorate of Interior in Targovishte said they had made the necessary investigative actions in the presence of a lawyer and translator. The case is in pre-trial proceedings."
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therowfamily Super user
Posts : 529 Join date : 2010-03-09
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:13 am | |
| Thank you Chris |
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beautifulangel Super user
Posts : 481 Join date : 2011-03-05
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:09 pm | |
| Thanks that was really interesting. I wouldn't like to be the policeman trying to sort out that mess, or roger if he doesn't get locked up. Doesn't sound like he's too welcome in the village. Just goes to show maybe he should have tried to get on with more than just the brits. All very sad, Hope the locals don't decide the rest off us are bad news too. |
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itchyfeet Mega user
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-09-10 Age : 68 Location : Paskalevets
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:33 pm | |
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Carmen Super user
Posts : 714 Join date : 2010-03-19
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:02 pm | |
| Lets not forget about how serious this matter is and how serious it could have been, I'm sorry but to make light of this sort of thing just isn't appropriate perhaps other forums might allow this sort of thing but I'm sure the majority of responsible members on this forum wouldn't find it so funny. Sorry mod if I'm out of order but it just needed saying |
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Gimp Super user
Posts : 863 Join date : 2010-02-12
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:56 pm | |
| I was just wondering if anyone had any more news about this matter? I'm assuming the person has been charged and is waiting for a court hearing? |
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beautifulangel Super user
Posts : 481 Join date : 2011-03-05
| Subject: Re: Brits in Trouble Again Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:16 pm | |
| As far as I know they are still collecting evidence. He has said it was self defense and Stefan and his friends say he provoked them and then attacked. Roger has been charged but Im not sure with exactly what. Other people I know say his behaviour has got progressively more strange all winter. Don't think he's got much hope of self defense though when he went outside with a knife. |
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