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UK 'Cannot Afford' Bulgarian and Romanian Immigrants

In 2014 there will be an unprecedented crime wave in Britain if we do not stop Romanian and Bulgarian citizens having open door access to British borders, claims UKIP MEP

No matter who is elected to run our police forces on November 15, Britain will be unable to stop the tidal flood of new immigrants because the government's hands are tied and it cannot stop restrictions being lifted without tearing up the treaty signed with Bulgaria and Romania when they joined the EU in 2007.

The government is frightened to predict how many Bulgarians and Romanians will move here because the previous administration grossly underestimated the numbers in 2004. It predicted fewer than 20,000 eastern Europeans would arrive but Office for National Statistics figures show more than 600,000 were working in Britain last year. Already, statistics have shown that Romania's population has fallen by more than 12 per cent since 2002 as hundreds of thousands leave the poverty-stricken nation for richer countries such as Britain.

Figures from the latest Romanian census reveal that migration and a low birth rate have pushed the population down to 19 million, a fall of almost three million in ten years, with one million Romanians working abroad. However, other estimates suggest the number of expatriate workers could be three million. There is no official figure for the number of Romanians in the United Kingdom, but British businesses advertised 2,400 vacancies in one month alone on a Romanian website for nurses, engineers and other jobs.

The exit of workers is also a moral one for Romania which has raised particular concerns in a country where only about five million employees pay taxes and most of the rest are pensioners, children, subsistence farmers or people working illegally. That is unsustainable.

A recent investigation also revealed that large numbers of Romanians are working in the UK as Big Issue vendors while also claiming benefits. Almost one in three Big Issue sellers – 700 out of a nationwide force of 2,250 registered vendors according to the magazine – was found to have come from Romania. Currently 90 per cent of cash point fraud is perpetrated by Romanian gangs;
a Romanian pick pocket gang committed over 180 robberies and organised crime is rife, transporting their gangs by bus. They exploit children to beg and steal;
they are dubbed the new 'Fagins' by many.

A disgraceful example of crime against the elderly was committed earlier this year when two members of a Romanian gang that targeted elderly people to steal their bank cards were jailed for six years each. Ioan Hutup, 30, and Elena Batan, 38, would spy on pensioners using their debit and credit cards at supermarket checkouts, watching them entering their PIN then following them home. They would then use a number of ruses to distract the victim while their card was stolen from them and then used to withdraw cash to buy goods. The sentencing judge said they would be deported at the end of their sentences. If only. They will be out in three years and then they will appeal that it is against their human rights to be sent home, when we will be stuck with them or face years of legal challenges with only the lawyers benefiting.

The Bulgarian administration is corrupt to the core, funded by the European Union. If the rot is at the top, that filters down through society and we do not want that here. The pure economics of these countries will dictate the migration numbers. Bulgaria has the lowest average income in the EU. Poland has gross domestic product per capita of ,000 but Bulgaria's GDP per capita is just ,300. There are 30 million inhabitants in Bulgaria and Romania.

If just five per cent migrate here, that is a potential new labour market of 1.5 million looking for work. When we have one million youth unemployed rate and a general unemployment rate of 8.4 per cent, that is 1.5 million potential job and benefit seekers. We cannot afford the benefits, we cannot afford more British joblessness, we cannot afford the extra housing and strain on our infrastructure and we cannot afford a crime explosion. The Home Secretary Theresa May needs to address this situation urgently, to tear up the treaty signed by Labour to protect our borders and citizens.

Well they can't have their cake and eat it can they.

there are 21 million romanians and around 8 million bulgarians and 61 million uk citizens, the uk is an island how many people can it accept.

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UK 'Cannot Afford' Bulgarian and Romanian Immigrants

A disgraceful example of crime against the elderly was committed earlier this year when two members of a Romanian gang that targeted elderly people to steal their bank cards were jailed for six years each. Ioan Hutup, 30, and Elena Batan, 38, would spy on pensioners using their debit and credit cards at supermarket checkouts, watching them entering their PIN then following them home. They would then use a number of ruses to distract the victim while their card was stolen from them and then used to withdraw cash to buy goods. The sentencing judge said they would be deported at the end of their sentences. If only. They will be out in three years and then they will appeal that it is against their human rights to be sent home, when we will be stuck with them or face years of legal challenges with only the lawyers benefiting.
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Something similar happened to my two aunts recently. They decided to go into town to do a bit of shopping as one of them had been ill and needed a day out. They are sisters and are 89 and 91. My aunt is of the old school and doesn't like credit cards, so she had over £200 with her to pay some bills etc. They went into a large store, I think it was BHS, for a look around. A couple came up to them and started chatting, very friendly. They said they were mother and daughter, from Romania and were working locally. After saying goodbye, my aunt went to pay for her purchases. But guess what? Purse gone!
Both were distraught, the police were called, but of course the perpetrators had long gone. My aunts gave a good description of the two women, but it is very unlikely they will be caught.
The incident has now made two feisty old ladies very wary, and they will now think twice about going into town on their own.
At least neither of them were hurt, it could have been a lot worse. Easy targets for despicable people.

cheekychops wrote:

Well they can't have their cake and eat it can they.

How right you are cheekychops, the UK will have to accept them whether they want to or not, they have accepted all residents from other EU countries and Bulgaria and Romania are the last two to have joined the EU, so why treat them any different to anyone else. If Britain wasn't overcrowded with illegal immigrants from other non EU parts of the world there would be ample room for them. The UK government should stop moaning and get it's act together and stick by the rules it has accepted in joining the EU and clear out the illegals before the country sinks into the sea.

It has to be said that a lot of the jobs the Brits won't do....notably cleaning and catering, and working nights in the supermarket, are done by Eastern Europeans. When I was still doing catering, we had a few pot washers, very hard working, and a laugh even though there was a definite language barrier. We had a doctor, a teacher and an electrician. I now work in a supermarket where the night shelf stackers are predominately Eastern European....and they are always there, not taking "
sickies"
every five minutes. Some of the Brits get away with murder, just because they know management want to keep them. Those people who use the 24 hour supermarkets would not be able to do so without these workers stacking all night, and cleaning as well.

And don't forget the Brits know all about the dole and i got to say most don't want to work

Yes you have a point mickhev but there are also a lot that do want to work and can not find any or they are to sick to work.

Hi Its Darrell

I go back to the UK every year to do 3 months work on a Game Farm.

The first year I went back on my own, but the year after that I went back with a good friend of mine from the village, now there are 8 of us that go back to work this busy period.

The reason my friend who owns the firm has taken on so many Bulgarians is simply their work ethic, they work hard, they turn up on time, and they will go that extra mile when needed.

This all came about simply because he kept getting let down by some of his own workers, who either turned up late or some days never came in at all if they knew it was going to be a long day for example.

They pay their tax and have national insurances numbers, not all of the staff there are unreliable, but its a poor do when you have to go so far afield for staff.

I know that there will always be bad apples in the bunch but haven't we as a country made a rod for our own backs with the benefits system.

Them that deserve don't get, and those that need it struggle to get it.

Again you have a point Darrel but its been like that for years the UK never look after their own as stated in this topic. viewtopic.php?f=46&
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