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PostSubject: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm

[size=55:1rv3huzx]BBC news 23 November 2010

The Romanian gypsy who lived luxury lifestyle with £113,000 benefits stolen from British taxpayers

A 'shameless' Romanian gipsy who stole at least £113,000 in benefits to fund a life of luxury has been jailed for three years.

Illie Schian, 47, bought sports cars, motorcycles, quad bikes and electrical goods with money he received from British hand-outs.

Using taxpayers’ cash, he even built his family a nine-bedroom mansion in Romania, complete with marbled floors, a spa bath, servants’ quarters and two kitchens filled with modern appliances.

He is also accused of involvement in a people-smuggling ring that sent around 180 children to Britain to beg and steal.

The fraudster amassed a £20,000 nest egg in a Romanian bank account before he was finally caught by police.

Schian, from Enfield, North London, applied for political asylum under an assumed name when he arrived in the UK 11 years ago, claiming he had been persecuted in Romania because he is a gipsy.

He was granted indefinite leave to remain in the country, but he proceeded to fleece British taxpayers out of tens of thousands in job seekers’ allowance, child benefit and housing benefit before he was arrested in July this year.

The Romanian was jailed for three years after he admitted a string of fraud charges at Southwark Crown Court on Friday.

Mr Justice James Wadsworth QC said: ‘You did your utmost to defraud the public.



You did it in a determined and skilful manner and I have been shown photographs of how your family appears to have become very prosperous.

‘I am satisfied that you skilfully and deliberately profited greatly and enjoyed it enormously.’

The judge recommended Schian should be deported after serving his sentence.

Earlier the court heard how Schian claimed asylum under the false name of Nelus Gheorghe in September 1999.





He was granted indefinite leave to remain in March 2004 and his family came to Britain to join him. But shortly afterwards he was jailed for 15 months for theft.

On his release from prison, he disappeared and began to commit benefit fraud using his false identity.Through this he netted a total of £113,889 in just three-and-a-half years.

He was arrested four months ago following a long-running investigation into the organised crime gang he was part of.



Prosecutor Martin Whitehouse told the court: ‘The defendant came to the country intending to defraud the benefits system and, as soon as he could, he did just that. This was a shameless act.’

The court heard that between January 2007 and June this year, Schian pocketed tens of thousands of pounds in job seekers’ allowance claimed from the Department for Work and Pensions.

He also had child tax credit and child benefit from Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, and housing benefit and council tax benefit from Enfield Borough Council.

Mr Whitehouse said Schian had used the money to buy land in his native country. He was in the process of building or extending a nine-bedroom property in the town of Tandarei, eastern Romania.

Schian also bought a BMW and an Audi, a 4x4, motorcycles, quad bikes, and filled his home with electrical items including a washing machine, plasma television and a cooker.

In addition to this, police inquiries revealed he had a bank account in Romania containing 84,000 Lei, which is the equivalent of around £20,000.

Yesterday Chief Inspector Colin Carswell, of the Metropolitan Police, condemned Schian for stealing from British taxpayers and cheating the welfare system.

He said: ‘Schian spent ten years in the UK exploiting the weakest from his own community as well as making a deliberate and sustained attack on the benefits system.

‘He portrayed the image of being poor and in need of money from UK benefits. Our Romanian colleagues alongside my team have proved this to be a lie.

‘Schian now needs to answer the charges that have been laid against him in Romania, that he and others are responsible for trafficking 181 children to the United Kingdom.’
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 2:56 pm

The UK had a 1st class system, for immigration visitors and students.Unfortunately they now have 3rd class people running the system. And also 3rd class people paying out the money to everyone and anyone who asks for it. The rules are..........answer the questions right, tick the right box, then just hold your hand out for your cash. Simple isn't it Benefits scam 3135333095 so what do they expect?
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 3:01 pm

Why does this not surprise me????
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 3:15 pm

Its no real surprise to anyone and I think what you said Cowshed just about sums it all up its almost like an invite to the rest of the Eu so why do they now complain when there isn't a system Benefits scam 3023850720
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 3:16 pm

Why does it not surprise me either? The groundwork in the UK has been laid for all this for many years and now they are reaping what they have sown.
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 9:42 pm

a false identity, are there any checks at all, it wasnt him, it was someone else, says it all really. Benefits scam 2381841692
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeWed Nov 24, 2010 9:11 am

Why was this man given asylum here in the first place. Romania is a not war torn country. Yes it's poor and there is discrimination against Gypsies in general but these are world wide ongoing problems you get in every country even in the uk this is not a good enough reason to give someone asylum.
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeWed Nov 24, 2010 12:16 pm

3 years is not long enough.that is the equivalent of 1 year =£37.000 approx, it should be based on minimum wage for a year then being 1 year =12.000 approx, then his sentence would be 9 + years, that might hurt, besides as they say he stole a minimum of £113.000, so you can probably double that. and when and if he goes home he has a better house than most of us and we paid for it!!, he will probably be allowed to stay and sell it at a nice profit. MUGS AGAIN.
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeWed Nov 24, 2010 2:22 pm

He'll only do 18 months of that so that'll save the tax payer a few quid!
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PostSubject: Re: Benefits scam   Benefits scam Icon_minitimeWed Nov 24, 2010 3:38 pm

Seize his overseas bank accounts, take the money and close them down. Throw him out now with just the shirt on his back. Keeping him in prison is senseless, it will cost another 100k.
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